Hi all,
Regards,
TC
looks like you have got your self a nice little project on your hands mate, whats your plans colour wise and stuff !!
Not sure about colour yet,
> Not sure about colour yet, I originally wanted it red and white, but I’m also wondering about old english white with a black roof and door spots- love that colour scheme! Need to trawl through some pics to find something I like. Once I have done the bodywork I should be welding in a full rollcage, then paint it!
same colour as mine have a look and see what you think of mine dudeee good look with it all mate
Heres some of the bits I’ve weighed so far, my medium size scales have gone missing so need to replace them, also the car was mainly stripped down when I got it so there will be loads of bits I will miss.
Sound deadening on floor and rear quarters- 9kg
Seam trims x4- 100g each
Clips for above- 30g
Rear seat belt mounts x2- 500g each
Rear side bins ally trimx2- 30g each
Ash tray box 105g
Bits of foam throughout the car x8- 4.5g each
Seat catch floor brackets x2- 272g each
Rear seat front- approx 900g
Rear bins x2- approx 900g each
Inside roof trim- approx 900g
Total 14.775kg, which is 2.5% of the total vehicle weight. I still have all the door cards, doors, seats, panels to weigh yet so loads to do…
Thought I would knock this up again, not a lot of progress lately as struggled to find the time, but have cleaned all the gunk from the floor etc, and bought a few bits and pieces! Will get some more pics uploaded soon, but so chuffed with these brakes I bought from Elisha-the-Cooper on the forum here
The alloy calipers weigh in at 1.1kg each, I have a set of “S” calipers too which weigh 2.8kg each! With my alloys this means I save about 4kg already from each of the front wheels, and probably a similar amount on the rears when I fit alloy drums
Got some work done today,
Little while since my last update!
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Top marks for this, being a sometimes obsessive weight-watcher myself you are doing work that I have seen nowhere else! Helps me a lot and potentially saves me from a series of error through trial. If this continues, you keep posting the weight of all things of your build, this is definitely a thread to be pinned. Keep the weights coming!
> Top marks for this, being a sometimes obsessive weight-watcher myself you are doing work that I have seen nowhere else! Helps me a lot and potentially saves me from a series of error through trial. If this continues, you keep posting the weight of all things of your build, this is definitely a thread to be pinned. Keep the weights coming!
Thanks! I have a page of weights written down but left in the workshop! I also will be missing LOADS as when I got the car half the bits were missing, but I’m sure some other can help me there
You pulled all the stengthening out, to save the weight?
Or is it going to be a silhouette space frame car?
I was hoping this wouldn’t turn into a “you shouldn’t have done that” thread…
I said in a post earlier that I know I’m going against the grain by removing a lot of what I have, but I will be re-introducing (hopefully far more) strength with a welded in multi-point cage, and a swaged/beaded aluminium rear bulkhead which will be bonded and rivited all round the edge along with more bracing etc where needed. So basically somewhere between space framed and a normal cage.
Yes i did read that, but i didn’t say you shouldn’t.
I’m just confused why you cut it all out to put it back in.
Because the aluminium parts I’m replacing the steel with is about 1/3 of the weight
looks good, you will be fine with the rear seat removed, 1380rich on here removed all of that and has a multipoint cage. as far as i know still has an mot too.
Well- I have been working on it every weekend since about christmas and it looks almost no different to how it started! I ended up replacing both outer sills, and making replacement patch panels for the inner sills too. I thought I may as well as although it takes time I now have a shell with NO rust what-so-ever and seam-welded sills on both sides. They are not genuine sills but fitted like a dream and yes i DID cut out ALL the old metal and finished it nicely before welding the new panels over 
I also took the opportunity to weld in jacking points in each corner, used round tube and welded it in the the inner sills and onto the strong bits where the rear subframe mounts, and into the door hinge panels, I wont use them in the workshop but will make it quicker and easier when in a hurry on rallies or whatever!
I also welded in my new turrets on the rear, I left the original pressed stiffners in place on top of the arches as they provided the positive location for positioning the the turrets and also tie them into the arches, and I didn’t have to use silly thick plate. I made the turrets from some left over 4" ERW tube I had from a job, with 3mm plates welded inside and out, I’m going to put a couple of triangles inside each to stiffen them a touch more but I’m very happy with how they came out. Seam welded all round on both sides.
I’ll upload more pics of the finished sills with jack points tonight 
Nice welding on the turrets, good work.
i must say that welding is great! only now that ive started welding myself can i actually apreciate a decent weld! mine are still messy! I also have a page of weightsavings as its good to know what youve lost and what your putting back in.
Do you have a rear subframe you could weigh? iv weighed mine before i went to rear beam but never wrote it down, bare or with radius arms etc i don’t mind!
Regarding the rear seat and shelf youve lost, 1380 rich has done it and is using a multipoint cage and looking at his pictures and mag feature ,never rebuilt it all in ally. But obviously your tank needs to be fire-walled, wish id removed mine now but its a first project for me and wasn’t too sure how far you can actually go with weigh-saving before you end up with no strength!
Also( i know im going on a bit!) removing the rear window rails or bars, Iv never seen that before, is there any reinforcement work required there or would the cage be sufficient?
Will be watching this very closely
Ben
Cheers guys, I am well please with the turrets, but was a little ashamed at my welding on the rest in the pics! I ground the top off but not flush so more strength is left there and they are covered by the sills anyway
Ben I have to say if I were doing it again I probably wouldn’t bother removing the rear seat- I think I will save 3-4kg but for the amount of work it’s debatable whether its worth it, all the seatbelt mounts tie the seat back in to the boot floor and arches, and are a complete pig to get out neatly. My cage will tie everything in so I’m not worried about the rigidity being lost, just a lot more hours work!
With only a bolt in cage I wouldn’t even consider removing all that I have (and would agree with most other peoples opinions on the subject), but I will explain my thinking when I start welding the cage in and use some pics to help!
I think a 100% stripped rear subframe weighs in at almost bang on 15kg, I have it written down with loads more stuff that I will upload when I have more pics!
edit- I also meant to say that I wanted to keep *some *weight in the rear of the car, which is partly why I have kept the subframe. It is the strong bit in a crash and keeps some weight nice and low, I just couldn’t help but feel if I had all the weight saving mods I have *and *a rear beam the car would be so light on the rear that it wouldn’t hold the road very well if things started to get horrible (skipping around sideways on gravel at high speed sort of thing) and wanted to keep some weight distribution near stock!
Plus you would have to do even more strengthening to the turrets, as the rear beam puts the weight of the car on them and you would be giving them a lot more abuse rallying than you would on the road or track. I’m also following this one for more weight saving inspiration, keep up the good work.
