Can I fit a bolt in roll cage with my rear bins and arches like this:
They were from the drivers side rear arch.
And this on was from the inside on the same arch, but that hole doesn’t go all the way through to the outside. And the bottom of the rear bin on that side is fine.
This from the passenger side rear bin, but the arch is fine.
Any holes that were in the arches we covered over with fibre glass. Also it would only be a cage for show.
before you start thinking about cages i would be worrying about sorting out that rot,sticking a load of fibre glass over the holes is not the way forward,the rot at the bottom of your companion bins is at an advanced stage,i would be checking the subframe mounts on the heel board and the heel board itself for advanced corrosion,this could lead to an mot failure.
my advise to you would be to remove your rear subby,cut out all the rot and replace with fresh metal ( heel board / companion bin repar panels are available ),once ths is done then you can think about cages!
I would agree,if you leave the rot it will turn into something like this.
It probably wont have been that long since mine was in a similar state as yours in those areas and doing a botch job on it will just accelerate the rust.A pevious owner seemed to think the sollution was to cover it in seam sealer and hope for the best
Also if you were to put a cage in as the car is,if you were in a crash it would be much more likely to rip its mounts.A large metal tube in the back of the head will not be nice.
> I treated the metal properly before fibre glassing over them
I take it that was a joke matey, come on now you know you need to cut out all the rot after removing the rear subframe, like others have said you are just making a dangerous car even worse.
Get the grinder and welder out fix the bits with repair panels and just think how much better the car will be and you will be adding value to the car also.
Plus if you do not fix it and the MOT man spots it I think he might fail you if the rust/holes are to near to the subframe mounting points but I am sure someone on here will know if this is true or not.
Best of luck.
As scrumpymini has said i do hope you are joking. All of those areas give strength to the rear subframe front mounting point. Get it welded first. That all is an MOT failiure.
Right, well got Dad to have a look at it this morning, and the hole in the rear bin is nothing to worry about, as thats the only place where it is and has had the outer and inner sills, on both sides, replaced due to that hole. So the only thing now is the arch on the drivers side, so do you recommend cutting out the rotten bits and welding new bits on?
i take it your dad has carried out a thorough insepection of the heel board and rear subframe attachment points,these areas are critical load bearing points,as i said in my previous post if the rot is at this stage then the chances are its spread along the heel board where you cant see it.cut out all traces of rot and replace with fresh metal,as i said replacement and/or repair panels are readily available.
> i take it your dad has carried out a thorough insepection of the heel board and rear subframe attachment points,these areas are critical load bearing points,as i said in my previous post if the rot is at this stage then the chances are its spread along the heel board where you cant see it.cut out all traces of rot and replace with fresh metal,as i said replacement an/or repair panels are readily available.
If the inner sill had of been relaced properly then the hole in the bin would have been cut out and replaced with the fresh panel work.The lower area of the bin where the hole is on yours is the inner sill.I assume that its not been done since its still there in the pics in which case it is still very much a problem.
Yes the hole in the arch should be replaced with fresh metal.
As others have said if its that bad in the bins theres a good chance the heel boards had it.The heelboard on mine seem ok on the visable sections but i expect the actual mountings inside the sill to be gone judging by the state of whats around it and i have accounted on replacing at least the ends if not the full board.The only way to know for sure is to drop the subframe and think back to how the inner of the mounts looked when the sills were off.
Not trying to be down about it,just better to do it right.